Well, there won't be one if we all just give up. I'm assuming we will have one. We'll need to fight election tampering and voter suppression. That's the focus, now.
You are a fucking idiot... Reid was replaced with Steele, who is very very black,,, Wake the fuck up. Reid was a plastic skin creame model teleprompter reader
Wtf???? No. Not true. Are you high on ketamine (sorry don't know the cool name for it)? I think you might be cause we tend to try and not disrespect one another here, if so, you may trigger a hot, though understandable reaction. But dude, that is beyond disrespectful to Joy Reid. She has so much respect by pretty much all of us (on substack) here. Not many mainstream media reporters have that. She was real though. True to herself and it showed. So your comment is pretty crass. DEI is so incredibly important to people who have a pulse that like to think that they want better for others as for themselves and the rest of our nation. White men who are insecure with who they are should look inward when they see equality for others as unfairness towards them. So, saying 1 black guy is replacing Joy Reid is great 👍, problem solved, why is everyone crying? It's so much more than that.
Who was Alex Wagner replaced with? Who was Katie Phang replaced with? How about Ayman Mohyeldin? NONE of these people are being replaced with people of color.
However, I like Michael Steele. I like Lawrence O’Donnell. He’s my favorite -and I still like Rachel Maddow. It may be one of the last main stream stations that lean truthful and left -before they completely destroy that. I understand they are owned by Comcast and Trump started getting his DEI initiatives into Comcast and wanted to see if Comcast was following it - right after that Comcast kissed the ring (cowards) and MSNBC commentators were collateral damage -people of color. I can’t blame any of the MSNBC commentators white, or of color for whathappened.
EXCUSE ME!?! ⏰💥 You are attacking MSNBC? When Fox LIES! Has been Spewing Bull Sht! And Corrupting Americans! To vote AGAINST their
own best interests! And vote for Republicans! Who SELL US ALL OUT! These ⬆️BOTS above, work for the corporate order! CONNING You! Pretending to be like you! Stop 🛑! Falling for this CRAPOLA💩 Like NOW!
Us, too. Turned off what we thought had been a lifeline, but was just another oligarch-owned and controlled media vehicle for profits. We all felt so betrayed by our friends, families, neighbors, after the election. MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, TNYT, all used to be our go-to's, but not anymore. Looking to Substack now, with podcasts. I am sure Maddow will eventually jump ship, and MSNBC will slip beneath the waves.
Me too. Needed a break right after the election and was about to start watching again- but once I found out Katie Phang and Joy were fired…. I was truly done.
I don’t want Rachel Maddow to walk anywhere. We need her there. I’m sure Dumpty will have sights on her soon -for removing her because she speaks truth, facts, and evidence.
Yes please watch Fox to get the real authentic news you obviously crave. Remind us of why you respect them more than MSNBC? You just want to get audiences to stop watching MSNBC. I am also disturbed by the not so subtle racism of some of these comments. A number of you are absolutely giddy that some Black commentators have had their schedules changed or have left the network.
That doesn’t change the fact that first CNN, and now MSNBC are “adapting” to the new reality. And like many others, I will stop watching MSNBC because I no longer trust them. Clear?!!
Is this a reply to my post? Because I never said I would prefer Fox news. Fox news, to me, is the absolute worst. So please explain. I am appalled that many people of color and people of other faiths were let go from MSNBC.
14% of Americans are black. According to FOX web site, they have 162 people who contribute. Only 8% (13) are black. How many are as high profile as Hannity and Ingraham? I checked out a photograph site. They LOVE beautiful blonde females. There are some blacks and lots of white males. I know for a fact they edit trump news especially about his rally attendance numbers. Just saying
Stop the bullshit about race... You are just supporting the argument to get rid of DEI.... White or black,,,,to say that somebody is hired/fired because of race is exactly why you have all these MAGA people hating DEI... Their argument is to evaluate according to skill and aptittude..... I am not saying that is noy white privilege but to harp on race is to fortify the argument of the right... Why the fuck can you rabid keyboard freedom fighters and resistance rebels see that?... You people kill me... You think you are making a stand by notg watching the news....boycotting MSNBC,, Amazon... You are fucking deluded.... Every action you take during your typical day supports the corporate oligarchy: Use Att to make a call....turn on the heat....fill up your car with big boy bad ass oil company gasoline..use Apple, Google , Microsoft,, buy a couch....use cell phone,, buy a Starbucks..... use your credit card,,,listen to Pandora tune...eat a steak slaughtered bu war criminals in Brazil.. Day after day,,,post after post... you people think you are fighting the good , and greata fight by limiting Neflix downloads or resisting Utube views.... the closest 75% of you come to real angst is agony over what color to paint the garage door.. This all is exactly precisely why Democrats will likely never
win another national office... They are playing to an empty room,,,all there constitutents are now Republican working class people, who left the Dems
basically because they are adift at sea lost on fringe issues;climate, race, gay rights, food content, dress codes, baseball rules,national holidays, time zone c,hanges..etc
The majority of people do not give a shit... they want to know why what used to be the middle class can not not afford a three pack of papers towels
There should be no need for DEI or Affirmative Action. Race and sex should have no bearing on hiring. The new military guy wants all women out of the services (particularly out of combat-maybe they can still be secretaries or nurses)-discrimination. A lot of republican working class people probably will be abandoning their elected officials. The senators and congressmen are facing increasingly angry town hall meetings, etc. to the point they will only do on line speaking. The working class will soon see that they will be the ones who will be hurt.
I haven’t watched Morning Joe since they went to Maralago. I’m not home doing the day but watched regularly from 4pm-11pm. While I really like Nicole, Rachel and Lawerence, it isn’t possible to support MSNBC now. I’m so disappointed… just when we needed strong voices the most. Rachel, Nicole and Lawerence were very outspoken last night, a tribute to their feelings for Joy and against what the network did but msnbc has broken my trust.
I haven’t watched Morning Joe since they had Donald as a guest during the runup to his first election and Mika ran her fingers through his hair so tenderly.
I stopped watching that fucking channel because of Joe and Mika. Fascism will not win. Racism will not win. Trumpism which I hate even saying or looking at won’t win. Fuck then all!
Completely disagree. MSNBC has been (and will continue to be) doing outstanding pro democracy anti authoritarian broadcasting. I like Joy a lot. But the show they are replacing her with is excellent (a former terrific Saturday line up). By the way it has two minority women and a minority male. The show that should have been cancelled is morning Joe. But don’t trash the really excellent shows from Nichole Wallace through the entire evening line up. Joy Reid would not want you to do that. If you listened to her last show you’d know that. This was an absurd article!
Totally agree about Morning Joe. I could never figure out what the hell they were doing on this network in the first place. But I never get up at 6 AM to find out. But keeping him on, and expanding Katy Tur, certainly is a clear indicator of what they are up to. And of course I agree Nicole Wallace is excellent, as is Maddow and Lawrence. But Joy Reid is a treasure, so that's inexcusable. It's a chainsaw move worthy of Musk and his bot bros.
I hate to lose her but people trashing all the network are abandoning our only chance to have a progressive TV channel to get good information out to people that aren’t going to spend hours on YouTube and Substack. We have to have a channel that can compete with Fox.
I agree with your comments about the continued value of hosts like Wallace, Melber, Maddow and O‘Donnell.
On November 19, 2024 the BBC reported Comcast’s intention to spin off its NBC cable networks, including CNBC and MSNBC. Coming just 2 weeks after the election, it was clear that corporate capitulation and disruption were afoot. We should watch closely what happens now with Rachel Maddow as it is sure to signal where media critical of the repressive regime is headed.
Correct....it kills that there is such "legacy media" hate Tell me,,,,how is that now Trump screaming about fake news? I would rather see/read MSNBC with their talent and world resources than some alledgely independent podster, with hoodie, a zoom, and some half ass idea,for whch I should pay???? Really??? You mother fuckers would bitch about a surf and turf 5 start meal.....
What is the alternative? Rachel Maddow is spot on every evening; scary but on the mark. Lawrence O’Donnell never disappoints. Nicole Wallace is a pillar of truth. To stop getting news from these outstanding moderators actually cuts your nose to spite your face! It’s ok to voice your opinion loudly about the changes MSNBC has made but to encourage people to stop watching these all-star defenders of free speech throws the baby out with the bath water!
As long as these three are still on, I will continue to watch. I will really miss Katy Phang. What great legal mind. I like Michael Steele so I’m glad they kept him, but I’m not sure of all 3 together. Time will tell.
The reason I say it was a bad decision is that Joy Reid’s show was cancelled because of a drop in viewership. After the election and Joe and Mika’s Morning Joe screw up, lots of people said. “I just won’t watch MSNBC.” That tanked viewership and basically forced some of these changes. If you want a network to compete against Fox and keep a progressive pro democracy and anti authoritarian message- we need eyeballs back on MSNBC!
It’s clear that strong, smart women and POC infuriate the emperor. I turned MSNBC off the night of the Joe Biden debate and neverturned it back on. I listen to the podcasts the next day. Fuck MSNBC.
And they have effing EXPANDED Katy effing Tur? A tribute to Andrea Mitchell? She has been a total Trump lackey (see Pelosi, N.) So that tells us more about this ex-CNN creep now running things. The elevating of Steele, Symone and Menendez was a weak sop to us, cynically using them as cover against all the fallout she KNEW was coming. They are good, no question. But not one of them is of Joy Reid stature. Or has legal mind of Katie Phang. Just an absolutely horrible, sociopathic decision. If Trump wanted to end MSNBC, this couldn't have been a better gift. Are they going to leave Maddow alone?
Yeah, Maddow has another 70 days then when the first 100 days of Trump passes, she goes back to just Mondays. Katy Tur was a sweetheart of Trump's, maybe they're trying to get him to watch MSNBC more.
Andrea Mitchell was FOX light for her entire career- no need for tributes; like her husband (Alan Greenspan), who I think was responsible for the dot.com bubble burst and the sub-prime mortgage crisis, which he conveniently stepped down just before it all blew up. Leeches, the both of them.
I haven’t watched MSNBC since Nov 5/6, 2024 - until last night when I watched the last Reidout. Hoping to see Joy here on Substack, which is where I now get my news of what’s happening.
Honestly I wasn’t a fan of Alex Wagner filling in Tuesday-Friday. I liked her better on “The Circus”. Love Katie and I follow her on instagram cause she’s got the cutest dog. I enjoyed her Saturday show. Maddow, Chris Hayes and Nicole Wallace and Lawrence O’Donnell made it known how they felt. I haven’t seen Ari Melber or Stephanie Rhule speak out and personally I’d move them to the weekend. I could shit a better line up than what they’ve planned. I’d get rid of kiss asses Joe and Mika, put Michael, Symone and Alicia on in their place. Kept Joy, pair up Katie and Jose. Jonathan and Ayman have always been on weekend nights.
I’ll continue to watch the resistance of Maddow, Lawrence and Nicolle.
I want Rachel Maddow to walk now. We turned MSNBC off November 6th. Haven't watched it since.
Me too! I stopped watching them abandoned all televised news on November 6. Grateful for Substack
Same with me. Independent all the way.
Ditto
MSNBC is going back to segregation. Democrats need to elevate more women of color. They will save our sacred democracy: https://democracydefender2025.substack.com/p/women-will-save-our-democracy
We need a huge voter turnout next election so let's start campaigning now
You’re assuming a next election. I’m not so sure.
Well, there won't be one if we all just give up. I'm assuming we will have one. We'll need to fight election tampering and voter suppression. That's the focus, now.
Exactly. Giving up is not an option
I'm afraid I agree with you.
Take heart. Better to fight and lose and keep our pride and integrity and dignity than to surrender
You are a fucking idiot... Reid was replaced with Steele, who is very very black,,, Wake the fuck up. Reid was a plastic skin creame model teleprompter reader
Wtf???? No. Not true. Are you high on ketamine (sorry don't know the cool name for it)? I think you might be cause we tend to try and not disrespect one another here, if so, you may trigger a hot, though understandable reaction. But dude, that is beyond disrespectful to Joy Reid. She has so much respect by pretty much all of us (on substack) here. Not many mainstream media reporters have that. She was real though. True to herself and it showed. So your comment is pretty crass. DEI is so incredibly important to people who have a pulse that like to think that they want better for others as for themselves and the rest of our nation. White men who are insecure with who they are should look inward when they see equality for others as unfairness towards them. So, saying 1 black guy is replacing Joy Reid is great 👍, problem solved, why is everyone crying? It's so much more than that.
Thank you! I will follow Joy Reid to whatever venue she chooses to continue her excellent journalism. We NEED her.
So will I! I just hope folks will post where she goes! I'm not as good at finding the podcasts or places to read newsletters like here.
Who was Alex Wagner replaced with? Who was Katie Phang replaced with? How about Ayman Mohyeldin? NONE of these people are being replaced with people of color.
Incel man troller speaks violent words. Right back at you chum.
NOT.
However, I like Michael Steele. I like Lawrence O’Donnell. He’s my favorite -and I still like Rachel Maddow. It may be one of the last main stream stations that lean truthful and left -before they completely destroy that. I understand they are owned by Comcast and Trump started getting his DEI initiatives into Comcast and wanted to see if Comcast was following it - right after that Comcast kissed the ring (cowards) and MSNBC commentators were collateral damage -people of color. I can’t blame any of the MSNBC commentators white, or of color for whathappened.
EXCUSE ME!?! ⏰💥 You are attacking MSNBC? When Fox LIES! Has been Spewing Bull Sht! And Corrupting Americans! To vote AGAINST their
own best interests! And vote for Republicans! Who SELL US ALL OUT! These ⬆️BOTS above, work for the corporate order! CONNING You! Pretending to be like you! Stop 🛑! Falling for this CRAPOLA💩 Like NOW!
Methinks the lady doth protest too much
Same!!!
Us, too. Turned off what we thought had been a lifeline, but was just another oligarch-owned and controlled media vehicle for profits. We all felt so betrayed by our friends, families, neighbors, after the election. MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, TNYT, all used to be our go-to's, but not anymore. Looking to Substack now, with podcasts. I am sure Maddow will eventually jump ship, and MSNBC will slip beneath the waves.
Lord how I wish she would. With Laurence O'Donnell and Nicolle Wallace. Au revoir $$$
We did too. It would be great if Rachel and Joy joined independent media.
Me too. Needed a break right after the election and was about to start watching again- but once I found out Katie Phang and Joy were fired…. I was truly done.
Bye ✌️ MSNBC, hello Substack. 👋
I don’t want Rachel Maddow to walk anywhere. We need her there. I’m sure Dumpty will have sights on her soon -for removing her because she speaks truth, facts, and evidence.
Not sure if she can based on whatever her contract says but they just let all of her staff go, so we'll see if that helps her decision.
Well, I was done after the “couple” visited the Orange Menace, but now there is no way MSNBC could possibly redeem themselves. Absolute cowards.
Yes please watch Fox to get the real authentic news you obviously crave. Remind us of why you respect them more than MSNBC? You just want to get audiences to stop watching MSNBC. I am also disturbed by the not so subtle racism of some of these comments. A number of you are absolutely giddy that some Black commentators have had their schedules changed or have left the network.
there's more news than just MSNBC and fox.
I personally prefer to follow specific reporters;but if you absolutely have to have a network, have you considered Midas Touch?
They are very anti trump. Trump supporters would never watch/listen to them.
Who the fuck said anything about watching Fox?!!
That doesn’t change the fact that first CNN, and now MSNBC are “adapting” to the new reality. And like many others, I will stop watching MSNBC because I no longer trust them. Clear?!!
Is this a reply to my post? Because I never said I would prefer Fox news. Fox news, to me, is the absolute worst. So please explain. I am appalled that many people of color and people of other faiths were let go from MSNBC.
14% of Americans are black. According to FOX web site, they have 162 people who contribute. Only 8% (13) are black. How many are as high profile as Hannity and Ingraham? I checked out a photograph site. They LOVE beautiful blonde females. There are some blacks and lots of white males. I know for a fact they edit trump news especially about his rally attendance numbers. Just saying
Stop the bullshit about race... You are just supporting the argument to get rid of DEI.... White or black,,,,to say that somebody is hired/fired because of race is exactly why you have all these MAGA people hating DEI... Their argument is to evaluate according to skill and aptittude..... I am not saying that is noy white privilege but to harp on race is to fortify the argument of the right... Why the fuck can you rabid keyboard freedom fighters and resistance rebels see that?... You people kill me... You think you are making a stand by notg watching the news....boycotting MSNBC,, Amazon... You are fucking deluded.... Every action you take during your typical day supports the corporate oligarchy: Use Att to make a call....turn on the heat....fill up your car with big boy bad ass oil company gasoline..use Apple, Google , Microsoft,, buy a couch....use cell phone,, buy a Starbucks..... use your credit card,,,listen to Pandora tune...eat a steak slaughtered bu war criminals in Brazil.. Day after day,,,post after post... you people think you are fighting the good , and greata fight by limiting Neflix downloads or resisting Utube views.... the closest 75% of you come to real angst is agony over what color to paint the garage door.. This all is exactly precisely why Democrats will likely never
win another national office... They are playing to an empty room,,,all there constitutents are now Republican working class people, who left the Dems
basically because they are adift at sea lost on fringe issues;climate, race, gay rights, food content, dress codes, baseball rules,national holidays, time zone c,hanges..etc
The majority of people do not give a shit... they want to know why what used to be the middle class can not not afford a three pack of papers towels
There should be no need for DEI or Affirmative Action. Race and sex should have no bearing on hiring. The new military guy wants all women out of the services (particularly out of combat-maybe they can still be secretaries or nurses)-discrimination. A lot of republican working class people probably will be abandoning their elected officials. The senators and congressmen are facing increasingly angry town hall meetings, etc. to the point they will only do on line speaking. The working class will soon see that they will be the ones who will be hurt.
WTF! Which substack comments are you reading?
Don’t watch either. Read the news
I haven’t watched Morning Joe since they went to Maralago. I’m not home doing the day but watched regularly from 4pm-11pm. While I really like Nicole, Rachel and Lawerence, it isn’t possible to support MSNBC now. I’m so disappointed… just when we needed strong voices the most. Rachel, Nicole and Lawerence were very outspoken last night, a tribute to their feelings for Joy and against what the network did but msnbc has broken my trust.
I haven’t watched Morning Joe since they had Donald as a guest during the runup to his first election and Mika ran her fingers through his hair so tenderly.
I stopped watching that fucking channel because of Joe and Mika. Fascism will not win. Racism will not win. Trumpism which I hate even saying or looking at won’t win. Fuck then all!
Completely disagree. MSNBC has been (and will continue to be) doing outstanding pro democracy anti authoritarian broadcasting. I like Joy a lot. But the show they are replacing her with is excellent (a former terrific Saturday line up). By the way it has two minority women and a minority male. The show that should have been cancelled is morning Joe. But don’t trash the really excellent shows from Nichole Wallace through the entire evening line up. Joy Reid would not want you to do that. If you listened to her last show you’d know that. This was an absurd article!
Totally agree about Morning Joe. I could never figure out what the hell they were doing on this network in the first place. But I never get up at 6 AM to find out. But keeping him on, and expanding Katy Tur, certainly is a clear indicator of what they are up to. And of course I agree Nicole Wallace is excellent, as is Maddow and Lawrence. But Joy Reid is a treasure, so that's inexcusable. It's a chainsaw move worthy of Musk and his bot bros.
I hate to lose her but people trashing all the network are abandoning our only chance to have a progressive TV channel to get good information out to people that aren’t going to spend hours on YouTube and Substack. We have to have a channel that can compete with Fox.
I agree with your comments about the continued value of hosts like Wallace, Melber, Maddow and O‘Donnell.
On November 19, 2024 the BBC reported Comcast’s intention to spin off its NBC cable networks, including CNBC and MSNBC. Coming just 2 weeks after the election, it was clear that corporate capitulation and disruption were afoot. We should watch closely what happens now with Rachel Maddow as it is sure to signal where media critical of the repressive regime is headed.
Correct....it kills that there is such "legacy media" hate Tell me,,,,how is that now Trump screaming about fake news? I would rather see/read MSNBC with their talent and world resources than some alledgely independent podster, with hoodie, a zoom, and some half ass idea,for whch I should pay???? Really??? You mother fuckers would bitch about a surf and turf 5 start meal.....
Agreed. Well said.
What is the alternative? Rachel Maddow is spot on every evening; scary but on the mark. Lawrence O’Donnell never disappoints. Nicole Wallace is a pillar of truth. To stop getting news from these outstanding moderators actually cuts your nose to spite your face! It’s ok to voice your opinion loudly about the changes MSNBC has made but to encourage people to stop watching these all-star defenders of free speech throws the baby out with the bath water!
As long as these three are still on, I will continue to watch. I will really miss Katy Phang. What great legal mind. I like Michael Steele so I’m glad they kept him, but I’m not sure of all 3 together. Time will tell.
This is the kind of fire we need. MSNBC is dead to me now.
You made a bad decision.
The reason I say it was a bad decision is that Joy Reid’s show was cancelled because of a drop in viewership. After the election and Joe and Mika’s Morning Joe screw up, lots of people said. “I just won’t watch MSNBC.” That tanked viewership and basically forced some of these changes. If you want a network to compete against Fox and keep a progressive pro democracy and anti authoritarian message- we need eyeballs back on MSNBC!
Clarify please? Who made a bad decision and why?
Shut them down!! Don't watch.
Spot on … haven’t watched them in Months!
I have used only Substack since Nov 6.
You are a moron... You read a group of opinions and call that news?
Pete, enuff bro. We get your position. You extra commentary is not valuable.
It’s clear that strong, smart women and POC infuriate the emperor. I turned MSNBC off the night of the Joe Biden debate and neverturned it back on. I listen to the podcasts the next day. Fuck MSNBC.
I second that!
Excellent article!
Rachel sure let them know how she felt.
She did! And the network responded by letting go of ALL of her support staff.
And they have effing EXPANDED Katy effing Tur? A tribute to Andrea Mitchell? She has been a total Trump lackey (see Pelosi, N.) So that tells us more about this ex-CNN creep now running things. The elevating of Steele, Symone and Menendez was a weak sop to us, cynically using them as cover against all the fallout she KNEW was coming. They are good, no question. But not one of them is of Joy Reid stature. Or has legal mind of Katie Phang. Just an absolutely horrible, sociopathic decision. If Trump wanted to end MSNBC, this couldn't have been a better gift. Are they going to leave Maddow alone?
Yeah, Maddow has another 70 days then when the first 100 days of Trump passes, she goes back to just Mondays. Katy Tur was a sweetheart of Trump's, maybe they're trying to get him to watch MSNBC more.
Andrea Mitchell was FOX light for her entire career- no need for tributes; like her husband (Alan Greenspan), who I think was responsible for the dot.com bubble burst and the sub-prime mortgage crisis, which he conveniently stepped down just before it all blew up. Leeches, the both of them.
I haven’t watched MSNBC since Nov 5/6, 2024 - until last night when I watched the last Reidout. Hoping to see Joy here on Substack, which is where I now get my news of what’s happening.
Honestly I wasn’t a fan of Alex Wagner filling in Tuesday-Friday. I liked her better on “The Circus”. Love Katie and I follow her on instagram cause she’s got the cutest dog. I enjoyed her Saturday show. Maddow, Chris Hayes and Nicole Wallace and Lawrence O’Donnell made it known how they felt. I haven’t seen Ari Melber or Stephanie Rhule speak out and personally I’d move them to the weekend. I could shit a better line up than what they’ve planned. I’d get rid of kiss asses Joe and Mika, put Michael, Symone and Alicia on in their place. Kept Joy, pair up Katie and Jose. Jonathan and Ayman have always been on weekend nights.
I’ll continue to watch the resistance of Maddow, Lawrence and Nicolle.